["HOOD, Andy" <ahood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

OK,

xlsfonts isn't included in Exceed. Your call on "unworthy of being called an
X client".

xlsfonts |grep lucidatypewriter

gives me 32 variants, 16 medium, 16 bold, no italic

If I understand Exceed's font display, fixed is either
-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed-*-13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
or
-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed-*-13-100-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1

I hope it is using the latter on my 100dpi screen, but it doesn't look like
it.

I would prefer the GTK+ dialog method.

Regards,
Andrew Hood
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-----Original Message-----
From:	Guy Harris [mailto:guy@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent:	Friday, August 18, 2000 9:26 AM
To:	HOOD, Andy
Cc:	francois.honore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ethereal-users@xxxxxxxx
Subject:	Re: [ethereal-users] Demande info

> Can you run xlsfonts? It comes with XFree86 and Solaris (probably many
> others).

If it doesn't have "xlsfonts", it's unworthy of being called an X
client; he preobably has it.

> I have Exceed on my NT system, and with the display pointing at the PC:
> 
> xlsfonts -fn -*-lucida-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Note that you'd have to quote the second argument if you're using the C
shell or a compatible shell, or you'll get a "No match" error (the
Bourne shell and compatibles, by default, just pass the string on if it
doesn't match any file names).

That string won't match the Lucida Typewriter fonts, though; you'd have
to do the

> xlsfonts -fn -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

to get them - but, if you're doing that, you might as well do just
"xlsfonts".

The "fixed" to which I referred earlier is, I think, an alias for *one*
of the "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1" fonts, but I
don't know which one; the equivalent bold font's name can be found by
replacing "medium" with "bold" - one should, if one gives a "-m" flag
wiht a particular font, also give a "-b" flag with the matching bold
font.

I am sorely tempted to make the fonts Ethereal uses preferences in the
preference file - and *NOT* make them be raw naked XLFD names (it's
truly appalling the extent to which X obliges end-users to deal with
those N-component monstrosities); instead, I'd be tempted to

	1) use the GTK+ font selection dialog;

	2) give a subset of the name in the preferences file, sufficient
	   to derive the names of the normal *and* bold-face versions
	   (and try to make it capable of handling whatever Owen
	   Taylor's doing with fonts in Pango).

(But I seem to remember somebody, perhaps Graham Bloice, a while ago
suggesting that we use inverse video rathe than boldface; I also seem to
remember a patch being supplied, and perhaps even checked in, but we're
still using boldface, so perhaps I'm misremembering.)

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