Ethereal-dev: Re: [Ethereal-dev] Next Release: Win32 NSIS installer pending questions

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From: Guy Harris <guy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:43:03 -0800

On Feb 4, 2004, at 2:16 AM, Ulf Lamping wrote:

Do we want to add some default configuration files (cfilters, colorfilters, dfilters, preferences)?

Preferences:

The only reason I can see for a default preferences file would be if the values to which the preferences are initialized in the code weren't appropriate...

...in which case the right way to fix that would be to initialize them, in the code, to the right values. I don't see such a file as being useful as a guide to users - most users would probably edit their preferences through the GUI, anyway.

Color filters:

At least for color filters, there are both user and system-wide color filters; would a default color filters file be a user file or a system-wide file?

And what colors and filter expressions would it have? Is there a set that would be close enough to what most people would want that it'd even make *sense* to have a default color filter file? Or are color filters enough of a personal thing that a default color filter file wouldn't make sense?

Capture and display filters:

Ethereal currently has no notion of a system-wide capture or display filter file. Should we add a system-wide file for them, too, and supply a set of useful filters in them?

I would tend to say yes. But as this topic isn't win32 specific, we should do this for all platforms, not only win32. Even if other platforms are not able to install these files (just don't know if this is possible), there should be a basic set of configuration files at least available somewhere in CVS.

Whether other platforms could install them depends on whether they're system-wide files or not. System-wide files can be installed - on UNIXes, they're installed in the same directory in which other data files for Ethereal are installed. Per-user files, however, are mo re difficult - UNIX package installers, probably for reasons having to do with UNIX's multi-user origins, tend to install stuff system-wide rather than having the notion of a user on whose behalf installation is being done.

My personal believe to the whole thing, when reflecting some mailings in the past days is:
- require to use a current NSIS installer version (e.g.: 2.0 RC 3)

I'll leave that one up to the maker of the installer (Gerald) to decide. If he says "yes", then:

- use the modern NSIS user interface (MODERN_UI)

That's probably a good idea, but I don't know enough about what disadvantages, if any, there are of the modern UI to say authoritatively.

- using the lzma compression algorithm to reduce installer size dramatically

Sounds good.

- put both Ethereal GTK versions 1 and 2 (together with the DLL's and such) into one installer

Would the installer install both of them?

If so, how would the user know which one they should choose?

If not, how would the installer decide which one to use? (And if it finds out from the user, how would the user know which one they should choose?)

- put some example config files in CVS and install them with the installer

See above.