["Ulf Lamping" <ulf.lamping@xxxxxx>]

Guy Harris <guy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> schrieb am 14.10.03 20:10:52:
> 
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 01:53:37PM +0200, Ulf Lamping wrote:
> > Well, that's exactly what the preference setting "off" will be for ;-)
> > (...  or should this better be named "none"?)
> 
> Do you even need a preference?

Regardless where to catch this information from the user, where else (if not in the preference file) we should save this info permanently?

> 
> There appears to be a small textured area to the left of the toolbar; in
> Netscape 4.x, at least, a similarly-textured area can be clicked to
> "minimize" the toolbar to the left of which it appears (or dragged to
> move the toolbar), although the Netscape one has a small triangle above
> the texturing that points down if the toolbar is visible and to the
> right if it's minimized, so perhaps the "minimize" option isn't
> available in GTK+'s toolbar.
> 
> Qt's toolbar has support for "close buttons" which might offer that
> functionality.  I haven't looked at what Windows or Aqua offer.
> 
> If it does need a preference, I'm curious whether other applications
> offer a "show toolbar"/"add toolbar" option and, if so, where they put
> that option.

Hmmm, I had a short look at Mozilla 1.4 (as I'm using it), they have that triangles as you said. But this is no thing GTK offers :-( Mozilla also has a preference setting where you can change toolbar style "Show toolbar as" under Edit->Preference->Appearance (icons,text,both). This feature is also supported by GTK. 

With Mozilla, you would enable/disable a toolbar (they have two of it) by View->Show/Hide->Navigation Toolbar.

I think we could use one preference setting for it all and put the "none" setting into this, too. So you will have four options: none,icons,text,both

> 
> > Before this, I have the following questions:
> > 
> > The toolbar icons are 15 seperate files in format .xpm., as that's the
> > format GTK1 understands it.  Where should these icon files put into? I'm
> > currently using the dir /image/toolbar for this.  Is this ok, or better
> > placed at a gtk/toolbar dir?
> 
> Qt, it appears, can also handle XPM files in buttons; I'd be inclined to
> put them in image/toolbar - if we ever support a toolkit that can't
> handle XPM, the images we'd need would probably have other suffixes, and
> we could put them there as well.
> 
> We should probably consider using the GTK+ stock items when using GTK+
> 2.x (assuming you aren't already doing that).

I'm using the stock items from GTK2 (where appropriate), but as they have a different file format (when I remember this correctly .png), which cannot be understood by GTK1, I converted this to the xpm format using the Gimp. The xpm format can be understood from both GTK 1 and 2.


Regardless of this preference thing, I would like to include the toolbar files to CVS first (without the preference thing, toolbar style fixed to "icons only") and as a second step thinking about the best way to catch the info from the user and store it in a preference setting. 

I think it will be easier for you to include this into the CVS tree in this two smaller steps. I will send the files for the first step later today.

Regards, ULFL
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