["Gianluca Varenni" <gianluca.varenni@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: "M K" <gedropi@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:11 AM
To: "Community support list for Wireshark" <wireshark-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] from the past

> That is the question.  I am saying that some program (?) is capturing
> my unsaved login info.  Then at a later point, when I start a WS
> capture, that login info from the past is put into that EtherxXXXXa
> tmp file.

What happens if you log into your ISP and proxy, wait let's say 5 minutes 
and then start wireshark? Do those packets still show up? what is their 
tiemstamp?

GV

> On 3/24/10, Gianluca Varenni <gianluca.varenni@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Are you saying that when you start Wireshark, wireshark itself starts
> > capturing, *before* you click the start capture button on it?
> > Which adapter is wireshark capturing from?
> >
> >
> > Have a nice day
> > GV
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "M K" <gedropi@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:12 AM
> > To: <wireshark-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [Wireshark-users] from the past
> >
> > > Jeff Morriss suggested that I pose this question to you folks.
> > >
> > > Here is what I wrote:
> > > First:
> > > I first log onto Windows machine
> > > I log onto my Isp
> > > I log into my proxy
> > > Maybe do a few things online (eg. go to a few websites)
> > > Then log into Wireshark
> > >
> > > Next:
> > > When launching WS, immediately the capture starts a DNS authentication
> > > trace
> > > and an etherXXXXa* file with Windows & ISP usernames AND passwords is
> > > created.
> > > Since I expect WS to be literal, I would expect that those actions that
> > > had
> > > taken place in the past (logons & DNS authentication) would not be
> > > captured
> > > since WS had not been started when I logged on.  That means that this
> > > information is being cached or worse somewhere.  For my peace of mind,
> > > please
> > > can you tell me about this security issue?  Thank you.
> > > ......................
> > >
> > > Here is what Jeff wrote:
> > > Anyway, a brief answer: Wireshark on Windows relies on WinPCAP to do the
> > > capturing.  I'm pretty sure WinPCAP won't start capturing until you ask 
> > > it
> > >
> > > to
> > > do so.  And I'm pretty sure that the OS's TCP/IP stack isn't going to
> > > cache
> > > stuff to give to WinPCAP after the fact.
> > >
> > > (BTW, the etherXXX file is just the temporary PCAP file that contains 
> > > the
> > > packets that were captured--and what Wireshark displays for you.  The 
> > > fact
> > >
> > > that
> > > your password, etc., are in there just indicate that your password, 
> > > etc.,
> > > were
> > > sent over the wire unencrypted.)
> > > ..............
> > > What Jeff described is what I expected but I believe that I understand
> > > now what I am seeing.  WS does its own DNS.  So, that explains the
> > > first question.
> > >
> > > The second issue, however, is still a big concern.  The etherXXXXa
> > > file always contains the complete (passwords included) authentication
> > > data plus more.  Again, this unsaved (by me) login information was
> > > sent over the wire in the past (PPP PAP), yet it is being saved (by ?)
> > > and put into this file in the present. How can I prevent this login
> > > info from being saved?  How can I encrypt this login info? This is a
> > > security risk.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> > >              ~Edmund Burke
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