["Jeff Sadowski" <jeff.sadowski@xxxxxxxxx>]

Chris it is pointless arguing with them we might as well just build
are own forum and ask nicely if they could give us a link off of thier
page. I don't have the bandwidth as of yet but I might be able to pull
a few strings.

On 10/6/06, Chris Swinney <swin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> There is obviously a case for and against both mail lists and forums.
>
> Over the years, I have personally used many forms of electronic
> communication from text based to web based, CLI to GUI. I personally
> prefer a web based GUI were a collection of related queries and
> discussion can be searched instantly with answers retrieved without the
> need to re-post, or subject areas can be browsed at leisure.
>
> I also believe that new users will find a web based forum more
> accessible and I do not think that the more technically able should NOT
> differentiate themselves in a kind of "I can do this, you can't - Nah Na
> Na Nah Nah" attitude.
>
> However, for some the mailing list is preferable as they clearly know
> how to extract the relevant information quickly and efficiently. For
> others it is essential as they may not have access to browser based
> computers.
>
> The WiKi has been mentioned and although this is an excellent resource
> of information, I do not believe this is the place to start posting
> endless queries. It should remain a place were facts and tips can be
> obtained about the product.
>
> Cleary some kind of link between a mailing list and forum would need to
> be established so that users could post to either using their preferred
> method and responses would be open to all.
>
> So any idea?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joerg Mayer [mailto:jmayer@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 October 2006 16:15
> To: Community support list for Wireshark
> Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] What about a Wireshark forum?
>
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 08:47:46AM -0600, Jeff Sadowski wrote:
> > I really see no difference to email  I click on a link just as if I
> read my
> > email.
>
> Well, there is the central point why you don't understand the mail
> users: Some of us DON'T click. No mouse interaction required at all to
> read mail. Also, with my mailreader I can configure how I want my mails
> to be sorted (by date, by thread, ...). With a forum the forum software
> decides how things will look at the users machine, and using just a text
> interface, forums are sort of inconvenient to read.
>
> > >"No, they are not. Get a good mail client. I handle a couple of
> hundred
> > >mails a day. How I handle that much mail? Well my client supports
> > >sorting, scoring and threading so it's no big problem. If I'm not
> > >interested in a discussion I just press one key and it's marked as
> > >read. If I don't want to read about a specific topic I just hit a
> couple
> > >of keys and I'll never read it a again. I've never seen this features
> in
> > >a web based forum."
> >
> >
> > That would be a good idea for a forum individual prefferences on what
> to
> > ignore. Also maybe some sort of grouping of topics like a similar
> topic
> > frame hmm.
> >
> > gmail supports quite a bit of options and I could also use it through
> any
> > mail client I desire I really don't care infact I recently switched
> from
> > yahoo to gmail and I like gmails defacto web interface a lot so far.
>
> I don't read mails via a web interface if I can avoid it - its a *major*
> inconvenience.
>
> > >You can do that before sending a mail message, too.  Or do you mean
> you
> > >can *retroactively* edit one of your postings?
> >
> > retroactive like in fedoraforum.org you can edit your own postings at
> > anytime unless it is locked by a moderator.
> > fix words so that it is less irritating for other readers. I make a
> lot of
> > grammatic mistakes and reading what i write can be difficult I can't
> always
> > catch it before I type the send button.
>
> Well, how about checking *before* sending a mail? How about using a
> spell checker or something similar? Btw, spending time on a typo is a
> wast of time. If something is of "permanent" interest, please write a
> wiki entry for it. Wiki has a web interface so if you like to use web
> interfaces, just go to wiki.wireshark.org and find a good place where to
> permanently store that interesting piece of information. Not only that,
> but if your wiki entry is interesting, others may enhance it - and
> that's something you can't do with interesting forum posts.
>
>  Ciao
>      Joerg
> --
> Joerg Mayer                                           <jmayer@xxxxxxxxx>
> We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that
> works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology.
>
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