On 20/12/23 16:06, Roland Knall wrote:
Ok, I am not ignoring those points, as I think those points are valid.
It makes sense, that building debian packages from the repository
should behave in the same way as it does with the overall projects.
Now, one could argue, that having multiple packages could have been
avoided in the beginning or it should be changed, that would be a
valid discussion being had, but I do not think it invalidates those
points and arguments. Yes, debian is different but it is also the base
(through ubuntu) for the majority of linux distributions as
wells Microsofts own variety in wsl2 (at least if you go with the
default one), and therefore it should be considered as such.
I don't know what you are trying to get at. I'm not trying to say what
Debian should or shouldn't do. They are free to decide for themselves.
I would never presume to tell them what they should do, although I have
strong opinions on that. There are lots of problems with their package
but that is something to be discussed in the Debian bug tracker, not
here. This project isn't part of Debian. This fact seems to be lost on
some people.
The libvirt plugin is a valid example of where we messed up. And with
we I mean the whole project. We provided this path and we kept it
maintained for far too long, but it is here now and a solution needs
to be found. We started on that road with stating that we allow
invalidating the api in major version releases and also minor version
releases to some extend. The argument, that libvirt is still doing
something they should not be doing is valid. But the solution here is
not hindering the compatibility, but getting in touch with them and
figuring out how to do it properly together. We created this path, we
should not destroy it but help others find a safer route. And libvirt
is indeed being used by quite a few people.
I don't understand what any of this means, sorry. I'm not being
facetious, could be my own fault. I have written many Wireshark plugins
so I know a lot about that topic. What problems are the libvirt people
experiencing that I am not? What strange and mystical path is this that
we are on? Why did we mess up? Please enlighten me. Really, I would like
to know so we can have a fruitful conversation about this because right
now I am really confused.