Hi Guy,
2013/7/15 Guy Harris <guy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
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> On Jul 15, 2013, at 6:57 AM, Bálint Réczey <balint@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> I think there is no clear preference.
>> sensible-pager and sensible-editor are mentioned [1] in Debian Policy
>> which gives direction to maintainers, but sensible browser is not.
>> There is an ongoing discussion [2] about updating the Policy with the
>> last comment recommending xdg-open for our case.
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>> Since prefer having less patches and in my quick test xdg-open
>> behaved more reasonably than sensible-browser
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> At least in our case, where I don't *think* we're handing it arbitrary strings that could end up opening things it shouldn't.
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> Whilst doing some Web searching I found a 2009 thread:
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> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/08/msg00020.html
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> that raised some security issues about xdg-open; dunno whether the 2011 bug comment you cite (which also turned up in the searching) takes that into account.
>I don't know whether those issues are now considered "not a problem" or are otherwise fixed.
I think we always provide an URL to xdg-open thus the mentioned
security problem which is a bit questionable IMO, does not affect us.
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> Note, BTW, that Qt's openURL code uses xdg-open, if found, on "generic UNIX", and doesn't appear to be patched by Debian to use sensible-browser instead. (I think it ends up using the same Launch Services stuff we do on OS X, albeit in Qt's case it does so through Cocoa, and it also uses the same Shell APIs on Windows. wireshark-qt uses the openURL code.)
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>> Note that wireshark must add dependency on xdg-utils to used xdg-open.
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> "Dependency" in the Debian sense, or in some other sense? Currently, the configure script tries to find xdg-open and, if that fails, falls back on using htmlview or mozilla, depending on which one it finds.
In Debian sense. Your concern is absolutely valid, I have already
added a build time dependency, too, to always detect xdg-open.
I just wanted to check the build in a new chroot before committing the change.
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> (BTW, Qt's "generic UNIX" code appears to do the checks for various programs at *run* time, and, if it doesn't find xdg-open:
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> if the DEFAULT_BROWSER or BROWSER environment variable is set, use the first of those that's set (in that order) and, if that's an executable, uses that;
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> otherwise, if the desktop environment is (somehow) detected to be KDE, uses kfmclient;
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> otherwise, if the desktop environment is (somehow) detected to be GNOME, uses gnome-open;
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> otherwise, tries, in order, google-chrome, firefox, mozilla, and opera.)
We could do that, but the wireshark package now depends on xdg-utils,
and that guarantees the existence of xdg-open when we need it.
>> I think we could move this thread to wireshark-dev to document the
>> rationale behind the change.
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> Sounds good.
Done, for this email, too. ;-)
Cheers,
Balint