Ethereal-users: Re: [Ethereal-users] Dissect Sigtran capture files

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From: Jeff Morriss <jeff.morriss@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:51:38 +0800


Michael Tuexen wrote:
Hi Jeff,
see a question below.
Best regards
Michael

On May 24, 2006, at 6:19 AM, Jeff Morriss wrote:



dirk Bruyland wrote:
Hello Users,
I need to analyse M3UA and MTP3 protocol messages (specific messages , between 2 specific network elements) in ethereal SIGTRAN (IP/Ethernet) capture logfiles. The ethereal display filter will only select large ( containing many disparate MTP3 messages) ethernet frames. When I filter on "MTP3 msg xyz between node NE1 and NE2" (as specified by M3UA DPC), I get selected frames containing indeed the desired xyz but also 95% other MTP3/M3UA/SCTP messages from all over the place I am not really interested in.
-Has anybody encountered this SIGTRAN difficulty before?

I suppose you're talking about many M3UA/MTP3 messages that were bundled together into one SCTP packet?

In that case, the problem you're seeing is probably due to the fact that display filters are applied to a *frame*, not to a particular, in this case, chunk inside an SCTP packet.

This applies to which frames are selected to be presented to you so that if you have an SCTP packet with these M3UA messages inside it:
    - OPC=2730, DPC=3003
    - OPC=1001, DPC=2002

then a filter like "m3ua.opc==2730 && m3ua.dpc==2002" will show you this frame even though none of the M3UA messages are from PC 2730 to PC 2002.

It also applies to what you see: Ethereal has no mechanism to present only parts of a frame so you'll see the entire SCTP packet, no matter how many chunks were in it.

-Is it possible to dissect the capture file (get rid of the ethernet frame structure) and produce a new cap file only containing standalone elementary messages, so that the ethereal display filter works and selects on these messages and not on the large frames ?

Not that I know of, no.

I'd love to find a solution to this problem, too, but I'm not sure how it could be done (though admittedly I haven't studied the problem very hard)... (Of course one way is to disable chunk bundling as ETSI recommends though that won't always prevent SCTP from bundling.)
ETSI does not recommend the disabling of bundling. Only bundling, which adds additional delay
(using a bundling timer, for example) should be disabled.

Ah, OK, I missed that point (in fact I never saw the ETSI spec--never had a need).

Thanks,
-Jeff
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