["Scott Celt (Yahoo)" <celts2u@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Loris!

Thanks so much for your prompt reply!

L> Winpcap, and therefore analyzer and ethereal, work on Windows ME

You are *correct,* and I know this because after I read what you said, I
tried some new ideas to get things working.  And, I was *successful* in
getting *both* Ethereal and Analyzer (WinPcap engine) to work on my Win
ME OS, PPP DUN dialup adapter system.

What was happening is that I have PGP 7.0.3 installed
(http://www.pgp.com), which included the PGPnet VPN encryption software.
This introduces some PGPnet TCP/IP 'Virtual Adapters' into the WinME
Network setup.  It was these PGPnet TCP/IP drivers which were causing
the Ethereal and Analyzer to crash after opening in the manner that I
described below.  What I did was *uninstall* the PGPnet, and reinstall
both the Ethereal 0.8.17 and the Analyzer 2.1 (*not* beta), and *both*
of them then worked *perfectly.*

Of course, the reason I wanted to use the Ethereal and/or Analyzer
software was to observe the *encryption* of the PGPnet VPN, to see if it
worked on certain IP to IP software (MS Netmeeting for example).  And so
I therefore *reinstalled* back the PGPnet 7.0.3 over the top of my now
properly functioning Ethereal and Analyzer setup.

To my dismay, the Ethereal would *not* function properly, and went back
to crashing in 'Blue Screen' mode, with the message already described
below (previous message).  However, the *Analyzer* DID continue to
function properly, much to my *great* pleasure.  But, when using
Analyzer, if I attempt to *reset* the "Set Default Adapter" menu choice,
then Analyzer *immediately* crashes too into the 'Blue Screen' mode
described below.  So, from this, I have concluded that *probably* the
PGPnet VPN drivers are somehow written in a manner that conflicts with
WinPcap in some fairly important way.  Hopefully the authors of WinPcap
(Loris?) will have some ideas as to what the problem more precisely is.
Also, I could wish that another WinME OS PC user experiences the *same*
conditions that happen to me using Ethereal, Analyzer, WinPcap, and
PGPnet VPN.

L > Can you tell me what happens installing windump and typing
'windump -D'?

At present, I do *not* have WinDump installed on my WinME OS PC.  If
installing it and running WinDump would help to debug the exact nature
of the WinPcap and PGPnet VPN problem, I would be willing to install it
and try to use it.  Just say the word, and what you want me to try with
WinDump, as I have never used it before.

So, in a sense, my Ethereal/Analyzer problems have ended up on a fairly
positive note at this point.  I *am* able to capture packets with the
Analyzer, and it suits my purposes just fine (observing PGPnet VPN
encryption).  I wish that I could use the Ethereal software with my
PGPnet VPN, but that seems *not* possible.

I've included an attached picture of my Network setup from WinME OS,
just in case someone wanted to see the actual PGPnet VPN entries there.

Again Loris, *thanks* for your timely and encouraging reply.  If there
is anything that I can do to assist you in further exploring this
WinPcap and PGPnet VPN conflict (under WinME OS), please let me know.

Scott ( celts2u@xxxxxxxxx )

P.S.  I just saw in the news where Microsoft cut a deal with McAfee.com
( http://www.nai.com ) for "Virus and VPN privacy/encryption" type
integration into Microsoft products.  McAfee stock went up 50% in one
day  --  *missed* that one!  Looks like Windows OS users may be seeing
*more* of PGP encryption type software soon.  ;-)



----- Original Message -----
From: "Loris Degioanni" <loris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Scott Celt (Yahoo)" <celts2u@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <ethereal-users@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Ethereal-users] Ethereal and Windows ME OS


Winpcap, and therefore analyzer and ethereal, work on windows ME, but
not on
your system, probably because of a bug in the packet driver. Can you
tell me
what happens installing windump and typing 'windump -D'?

Loris.


> Hi Everyone!
>
> I have a Windows ME OS PC, and have been trying to get either Ethereal
> or Analyzer packet sniffer working on my PC, *without* luck.
>
> I can install and *open* either program successfully.  But, when I try
> to *do* anything with either program, they *both* immediately crash
with
> the (approximate) following message in the 'Blue Screen of Death'
mode:
>
> "Exception 0E in VxD PPPMAC(01) ...
>  This was called (from) ... VxD NDIS(01) ... "
>
> I get this *exact* same crash message on *both* Analyzer and Ethereal.
>
> So, I looked in the HELP documentation of the *beta* Analyzer 2.1, and
> it states there that Win ME OS is NOT SUPPORTED.
>
> And I suspect this is *also* true for the Ethereal software too, that
> Win ME does *not* work properly for it.  The Ethereal FAQ states that
> "Windows ME should work."  But I suspect that this is *not* the case.
>
> Anyway, if you know of *anyone* that has gotten Ethereal to work with
> the Windows ME OS, please let me know.  I'd be interested in asking
them
> what they did to accomplish that.
>
> In the meantime, my *advise* to you is to state in any messages where
> you recommend Ethereal or Analyzer packet sniffers that:
>
> (1)  Analyzer 2.1 *beta* does *not* work with Win ME OS, and says so.
>
> (2)  It is *unclear* that Ethereal works with Windows ME OS.
>
> I got the CommView and SpyNet sniffers to work *briefly* for me with
Win
> ME OS.  But of course they are now time expired.  So, anyway, I'd like
> to get the Ethereal packet sniffer working with my Win ME OS if
> possible.  But I am thinking here that this will require work from the
> authors of Ethereal and/or WinPcap, to make that happen.
>
> I think the statistics are that like 35% of PC users run Windows 98,
> whereas like 2% of less run Windows ME OS.  So I'm not sure that
Windows
> ME working with Ethereal is all that much of a priority.  Still, if I
> don't ask for that, surely it will not happen.  ;-)
>
> I just thought that you might benefit from the information in this
> email.
>
> Catch you later, Scott ( celts2u@xxxxxxxxx )
>
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