Ethereal-dev: Re: [Ethereal-dev] ClearSight/GPL update

Note: This archive is from the project's previous web site, ethereal.com. This list is no longer active.

From: Richard Sharpe <rsharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 15:45:29 -0700 (PDT)
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004, Richard Sharpe wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Apr 2004, Guy Harris wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 02:58:58PM -0700, Richard Sharpe wrote:
> > > In addition, whether or not OLE serves to sufficiently distance Ethereal 
> > > from the ClearSight product depends on the implementation technique. If it 
> > > uses any form of dynamic linking, then I think they still have a problem 
> > > with theirs being a derived work. However, I am not familiar enough with 
> > > OLE to be able to say.
> > 
> > The impression I have is that an OLE server (Ethereal is presumably
> > acting as an OLE server) can either be "in-process", in which case it's
> > a DLL and requests from the client to the server are done by loading the
> > DLL if it's not already loaded and calling code in the DLL, or
> > "out-of-process", in which case it's a separate executable and some
> > interprocess message channel is used to convey the request and the
> > results.
> 
> This is interesting.
>  
> > If it's in-process, that's a form of dynamic linking; I'd say only
> > software with a GPL-compatible license could use a GPL'ed in-process
> > server.
> 
> I would tend to agree with this.
> 
> > If it's out-of-process, you could probably argue that the connection
> > between the client and server doesn't require that a GPL'ed
> > out-of-process server be used only by clients with GPL-compatible
> > licenses.
> 
> I would tend to agree with this. If this is the case, ClearSight could 
> make their case that they are not a derived work stronger by making other 
> packet capture and analysis engines for Windows work with their product.

It should be noted that simply re-implementing to cross some artificial 
barrier to try to avoid copyright law, is not sufficient, as far as I 
understand these things.

That is, if they were a derived work before they changed the interface, 
and their only reason for changing the interface was to try to avoid the 
provisions of the copyright law, I think they are still violating our 
licence.

We need to have competent advice on these issues.

I am copying this discussion to another list where we might get some 
answers.

Regards
-----
Richard Sharpe, rsharpe[at]richardsharpe.com, rsharpe[at]samba.org, 
sharpe[at]ethereal.com, http://www.richardsharpe.com