Ethereal-dev: Re: [Ethereal-dev] Licensing/Distribution Question

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From: Ashok Narayanan <ashokn@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 12:58:16 -0400
I'm sure you will get lots of IANAL replies, so let me throw mine in
as well. Note: I actually spoke with a lawyer about this exact same
issue (though not regarding Ethereal). But not everything here is from
the lawyer; seek your own legal advice.

The short answer is, if you are using it internal to your company then
you are not required to redistribute source to your modifications to
the general public. But, if you redistribute the modified binary to
*anyone* outside your company, you must then license this binary under
the GPL (and only the GPL), which means that you must then make
available the modified source to the third party, and you may not
restrict him from sharing it with *everyone* outside your company. The
GPL only requires you to make source available for software that you
are *redistributing* to external entities.

Two useful pointers are here:

  http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLRequireSourcePostedPublic

  which says "an organization can make a modified version and use it
  internally without ever releasing it outside the organization."

and here (discussion of the old Apple APSL license 1.x):

  http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/historical-apsl.html

  which describes an incompatibility as this: " The APSL does not
  allow you to make a modified version and use it for your own private
  purposes, without publishing your changes. " This implies that the
  GPL does *not* make this requirement.

Now, the GPL doesn't make a statement about the fact that "you" can be
an organization, but this is how it was explained to me.

- If your modifications are copyright to the company (e.g. in my case
"(C) Ashok Narayanan, Cisco Systems", then your company holds part
copyright to the changes (or full copyright, depending on your
employee agreement). Licenses such as the GPL are only used to
transfer rights to people who do *not* hold the copyright. Therefore,
anybody in your company does not require any license to use the
modifications in question, and neither do you require a license to
redistribute this to anybody in your company. However, you then cannot
claim any personal ownership of this code once you leave the
company. The GPL makes this sort of claim irrelevant, of course.

- If your modifications are copyright to you personally (e.g.  "(C)
Ashok Narayanan", and you wish to maintain this copyright for yourself
(and not share it with the company) then you will need to license your
modifications to your company using the GPL. You must then make the
source available to your company and you cannot forbid your company
from redistributing it to anybody (via license). You can however,
forbid people in your company from redistributing this outside the
company via an internal corporate directive. Also, if you leave the
company you could claim personal ownership of the code. The GPL makes
this sort of claim irrelevant, of course.

-Ashok

On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 12:57:33PM -0400, Dave Shawley wrote:
> I got a question about about distributing Ethereal as an internal tool
> for our field support guys. We have a number of proprietary protocols
> that I have written dissectors for. I have been using it for my own
> debugging purposes since I am responsible for writing the protocol
> servers. Anyway, if we wanted to distribute Ethereal internally what
> are the distribution requirements since it is GPLed?
> 
> I guess that my real question is: do we have to distribute the source
> for our dissectors or is it legal to release binary form dissectors if
> we provide links to the source for Ethereal?
> 
> Now for the real story... my manager really wants to distribute Ethereal
> since it is a *very* useful debugging tool. She thinks that since it is
> an internal distribution, we shouldn't have to divulge the source for
> our dissectors. I'm pretty sure we have to distribute the source but I
> figured that I would ask anyway.
> 
> Now if we do have to distribute the source, is it legal to to dist the
> source on the same disk? I think that our lawyers will go for this one
> since the disks are only available to our internal FEs. Anyway, I need
> some response on this from the legalease on this list.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave Shawley
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