Ethereal-dev: RE: [Ethereal-dev] Request: Change the allowed license of plugins

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From: "Neulinger, Nathan" <nneul@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:17:20 -0600
I agree. The only way I can see that this wouldn't be an issue would be
in the case of something like the ip telephony dissector - where it
isn't the protocol itself that's a problem, it's the use of external
libraries with incompatible licenses. For that case, the license change
seems fairly reasonable.

For the "protocol is protected by a patent so you can't even analyze
it", which seems like complete nonsense to me, it doesn't seem like a
legitimate reason to change the license. 

I believe that if the license is changed, and someone comes out with a
binary-only dissector for a useful protocol, then people will very
likely use the binary dissector to help write a non-closed
plugin/dissector. This is no different than examining an oracle session
trace alongside a dump of the capture as an aid to improving the oracle
dissector. 

-- Nathan

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Nathan Neulinger                       EMail:  nneul@xxxxxxx
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Computing Services                       Fax: (573) 341-4216


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher K. St. John [mailto:cks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:26 AM
> To: ddutt@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: mwood@xxxxxxxxx; ethereal-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Ethereal-dev] Request: Change the allowed 
> license of plugins
> 
> 
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, ddutt@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >  > I suspect that there is some confusion of ideas here.
> >  > 
> >  > (Preface:  this is not legal advice.  If you want legal 
> advice, hire a
> >  > lawyer.)
> > This is the primary reason why I think that in the end, 
> rather than debate
> > legal battles, if we can agree that modifying the license 
> for the plugins is
> > OK, we can all get back to doing actual work. 
> >
> 
>  Modifying the licence makes your life easier, but other people's
> life considerably harder. Besides the issues surrounding contacting
> all the contributors about the license change, there's also the
> implicit threat that Cisco considers the existing plugins to be
> a violation of their patent. Thats the only way it makes sense, right?
> Either writing a plugin for a Cisco protocol is a controlled use of
> the patent, or it's not. If it's not, then Cisco's request doesn't
> make sense. If it is, then changing the licence is an admission that
> only Cisco (and Cisco patent licensees) are allowed to write protocol
> analyzers for Cisco protocols.
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